Гост dandio Posted May 24, 2009 Report Share Posted May 24, 2009 Birthdate: 5 August 1948 Birthplace: Skegness, England Other clubs: Scunthorpe United (1965-67), St George (loan 1978), Tottenham Hotspur (1981-88) Bought from: Scunthorpe United Signed for LFC: £18,000, 24.06.1967 International debut: 15.11.1972 vs. Wales International caps: 61/0 (56/0 at LFC) - 16.11.1983 Liverpool debut: 25.09.1968 Last appearance: 27.05.1981 Contract expiry: 15.08.1981 Win ratio: 54.89% W: 365 177 L: 123 Honours: League Championship 1972/73, 1975/76, 1976/77, 1978/79, 1979/80; FA Cup 1974; League Cup 1981; European Cup 1977, 1978, 1981; UEFA Cup 1973, 1976 Total games/goals opposite LFC: 16 / 0 LFC league games/goals: 470 / 0 Total LFC games/goals: 665 / 0 http://www.lfchistor...yer/Profile/282 http://int.soccerway...lemence/221512/ http://en.wikipedia....ki/Ray_Clemence Player profile Clemence was a fresh faced 18-year-old at Scunthorpe United when Bill Shankly brought him to Anfield in June 1967. Despite his young age he had still made 46 appearances for the third division club. Shankly even told him Lawrence was over the hill and he would be in the team inside six months to convince him to join. Clemence had to serve a two and half years' frustrating apprenticeship in the reserves apart from being selected for a League Cup tie against Swansea in September 1968. Clemence's second and third game came one year after his debut but he could hardly showcase his talent as Liverpool conquered Dundalk 10-0 and 4-0 in the European Fairs Cup. As the 60s moved into the 70s, Shankly was starting to break up the team which had brought him so much success and Clemence was given his full League debut at Nottingham Forest on the last day of January 1970. Tommy Lawrence's last appearance for the club was in an awful FA Cup quarter-final defeat at Watford the next month and seven days later Clemence was one of a number of changes made for the visit of Derby County and he had established himself firmly as first-choice 'keeper by the end of that season. Clemence only missed six League matches in the next 11 years! In the 1970/71 season Clemence only conceded 22 goals in 41 First Division matches, a record which was surpassed in 1978/79 when just 16 goals were conceded, with Clemence an ever-present for the sixth time. It was no coincidence Liverpool were the best team, they had the best defence: Clemence, Neal, Kennedy, Thompson and Hansen. Clemence kept 28 clean sheets and only conceded four goals at Anfield in 21 games! His positional sense and quick reactions led to England caps galore and his tally would have been even higher had Peter Shilton not been around at the same time. One of very few players over the whole continent to have won three European cup winners' medals, Clemence's crucial save from Stielike when the Rome final in 1977 was tensely balanced at 1-1 helped Liverpool achieve perhaps the most memorable result in the club's long and illustrious history. Just as important saves in the Anfield quarter-final with Saint-Etienne in the same season had paved the way for that first success in Europe's premier club competition and his penalty save from Jupp Heynckes prevented Liverpool from losing the 1973 UEFA Cup final on the away goals rule. Another brilliant save from a spot-kick at Dresden in the UEFA tournament three years later also prevented a quarter-final exit and the Reds went on to win the cup that year as well. What is not remembered so well but what was just as vital to all the success the club enjoyed during the 1970's was Clemence's remarkable consistency and athleticism which turned many a draw into a victory and many potential defeats into draws and wins. Clemence's final game for Liverpool was appropriately on the sort of grand stage to which he had become accustomed and he kept a clean sheet as Real Madrid were beaten by Alan Kennedy's late strike in Paris as Liverpool and Clemence lifted their third European Cup. It was a shock for Liverpool's management as well as fans when Clemence, who was approaching his thirty-third birthday, declared he wanted to leave the club as newcomer Bruce Grobbelaar staked a claim to the number one jersey. Some claimed Clemence was running scared as he felt threatened by Grobbelaar, but Clemence says nothing could be further from the truth. "At the start of my career, I had Tommy Lawrence underneath me once I got into the side so I had the pressure of him. Frankie Lane came from Tranmere, McDonnell came from Oldham, Ogrizovic came from Chesterfield so I always had somebody putting pressure on me and that was part of Liverpool's way getting you to play well was always having somebody to threaten your position. Therefore you always had to play well. Bruce was no different to any other goalkeeper I had underneath me before." Clemence moved to Tottenham and his first competitive match against his former teammates was at Wembley where, despite his heroics, Liverpool retained the League Cup by three goals to one. Clemence enjoyed a new lease of life at Tottenham, playing almost until he was 40 and eventually making over 1000 appearances in total in his fantastic career. Clemence played 336 games without missing a single match from 9 September 1972 until 4 March 1978. Only two players have made more first-team appearances for the club; Ian Callaghan and Jamie Carragher. In Clemence's distinguished career at Liverpool he kept 323 clean sheets in 665 appearances. A few weeks after joining Tottenham, he travelled to Anfield with Liverpool needing a win to secure their thirteenth League Championship. As Clemence ran towards the Kop goal at the start of the second half he received a fantastic ovation from the crowd. "The first half I was playing at the Anfield Road end and they were still chanting: 'England's number one to me' so that was nice. I could never have envisaged when I came out at half-time and ran down to the Kop, the reception I would get. The whole stadium stood up and every single one in the Kop. It's probably the most emotional I have ever been at a football ground. It definitely brought a lump to my throat because I could not believe the reception from them. It was just one of the best moments you could possibly have." CAREER HIGHLIGHT Three-time European Cup winner Depending on who you ask, Ray Clemence should have won far more England caps or was fortunate to have played so many times for his country when Peter Shilton was in his prime. Whichever way it is looked at, the Skegness-born goalkeeper is considered to be one of the best the country has ever produced and his medal haul is proof enough of how influential he was at club level. Clemence would have been the undisputed number one for the England team in almost any other era, but he was forced to compete with Shilton for the Three Lions shirt for his entire career. You will not hear him complaining, though, as he played 61 times for his country and won 20 trophies with Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur in a career that spanned three decades and 18 years. There can be no higher accolade paid to Clemence than the fact that he was Bill Shankly's chosen 'keeper, as the Scottish manager created the Anfield dynasty in the late 1960's and early 70's. After just two seasons with lowly Scunthorpe United, and only a year in the first team, he was taken to Liverpool where, after making an early debut, a two-year apprenticeship was served before he took over the green jersey on a regular basis. Silverware soon came thick and fast, as Clemence ensured that, while those in front of him earned the headlines as the Merseyside outfit began to conquer both England and Europe, he was always there to give them the confidence to go forward. Vocal in his control of the back four, the young keeper was agile and commanding around his area, as he told senior pros, with far more experience than himself, what to do and when to do it. They listened too. The league title arrived in 1973 and Clemence did then find a place in the limelight, when he stopped a penalty in the final of the UEFA Cup to help the Reds to beat Borussia Moenchengladbach. A year later, the FA Cup was secured at Wembley as the young custodian began to enjoy regular open top bus tours with Liverpool. He went on to help them to win the league in 1976, 1977, 1979 and 1980. In 1976, the UEFA Cup was recaptured, but it was during the next four seasons that the club's dominance of Europe really began to show, as they won the European Cup in 1977, 1978 and 1981. Clemence was as masterful against continental opposition as he was against domestic strikers, just as he was equally adept both on the ground and in the air. In a poll on Liverpool's official website, the affable shot-stopper came in at number 11 in the top 100 players in the club's history and he was the highest placed keeper, beating his successor Bruce Grobbelaar to the honour. Helping to pioneer the use of gloves, Clemence had been called into the England squad in 1972 by no lesser luminary than Sir Alf Ramsey, but even the World Cup winner was unable to be sure if he was the best available. Over the course of a decade, the Liverpool 'keeper alternated in and out of the national with Shilton, while Joe Corrigan was left back in third place, often sitting in the stands for games. One major achievement that he did enjoy, though, was becoming the first goalkeeper to captain England since Frank Swift had done so in the 1940's, but it was in a period when the team struggled to qualify for major tournaments, so this honour was a bit of an oasis in a desert. With Liverpool in their prime, Clemence caused a stir when he opted to join Tottenham in 1981, believing that he needed a fresh challenge at a club where he would still have a chance of winning things. While the silverware was not going to be in as great a supply as it was at Anfield, he did help the north London outfit to win the FA Cup in his first year, as well as to reach the League Cup Final in 1982 and the FA Cup Final again in 1987. After seeing Pat Jennings defect to Arsenal and Barry Daines unable to come anywhere the same standard, Clemence's arrival at White Hart Lane was a big moment for the club as he was the rock upon which the success of the 1980's was built. UEFA Cup glory was missed out on by Clemence, as he did not play in the final, and instead his injury meant that Tony Parks went on to make his name with a penalty save against Anderlecht. Since retiring the 'keeper, now 60, has managed both Tottenham and Barnet and has been on the England coaching staff for over a decade. He has, more recently, seen off prostate cancer and received an MBE for his services to the game. HONOURS First Division title (Liverpool) 1973, 1976, 1977, 1979 and 1980 FA Cup winner (Liverpool) 1974 (Tottenham Hotspur) 1982 European Cup winner (Liverpool) 1977, 1978 and 1981 UEFA Cup winner (Liverpool) 1973 and 1976 League Cup winner (Liverpool) 1981 European Super Cup winner (Liverpool) 1977 Charity Shield winner (Liverpool) 1974, 1976, 1977 (shared), 1979 and 1980 (Tottenham Hotspur) 1981 (shared) Awarded MBE DID YOU KNOW... Clemence did not dive in warm-ups before matches because he thought it was unlucky... Рей Клемънс http://cards.littleoak.com.au/197475_abc_redbacks/087_ray_clemence.jpg Ливърпул 1968-81, 666 мача Първоначално Рей Клеманс играе в Скънторп, но през юни 1967 година е купен от мениджъра на Ливърпул Бил Шенкли за скромната сума от 18 000 паунда. До 1970 г. е резерва на Томи Лорънс, но след това става титулярен вратар на отбора. Дебютът му за Ливърпул е на 16 септември 1969 г. срещу Дъндалк, като отборът му побеждава с 10:0. През сезон 1978/79 той допуска само 16 гола във вратата си, което става рекорд. След като печели 12 големи отличия с отбора от Ливърпул и запазва вратата си суха в 335 от общо 666-те си мача, Клемънс преминава в лондонския Тотнъм през 1981 г. срещу сумата от 300 000 паунда. Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Гост S.Gerrard Posted May 25, 2009 Report Share Posted May 25, 2009 http://i44.tinypic.com/mbpd3t.jpg Birthdate: 05.08.1948 Birthplace: Skegness, England Other clubs: Scunthorpe, Tottenham Bought from: Scunthorpe Signed for LFC: £18000 24.06.1967 International debut: 15.11.1972 vs. Wales International caps: 61 (56 at LFC) Liverpool debut: 25.09.1968 Last appearance: 27.05.1981 Contract expiry: 15.08.1981 LFC league games/goals: 470 / 0 Total LFC games/goals: 665 / 0 CAREER HIGHLIGHT http://i43.tinypic.com/k9gkmf.jpg Three-time European Cup winner Depending on who you ask, Ray Clemence should have won far more England caps or was fortunate to have played so many times for his country when Peter Shilton was in his prime. Whichever way it is looked at, the Skegness-born goalkeeper is considered to be one of the best the country has ever produced and his medal haul is proof enough of how influential he was at club level. Clemence would have been the undisputed number one for the England team in almost any other era, but he was forced to compete with Shilton for the Three Lions shirt for his entire career. You will not hear him complaining, though, as he played 61 times for his country and won 20 trophies with Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur in a career that spanned three decades and 18 years. There can be no higher accolade paid to Clemence than the fact that he was Bill Shankly's chosen 'keeper, as the Scottish manager created the Anfield dynasty in the late 1960's and early 70's. After just two seasons with lowly Scunthorpe United, and only a year in the first team, he was taken to Liverpool where, after making an early debut, a two-year apprenticeship was served before he took over the green jersey on a regular basis. Silverware soon came thick and fast, as Clemence ensured that, while those in front of him earned the headlines as the Merseyside outfit began to conquer both England and Europe, he was always there to give them the confidence to go forward. Vocal in his control of the back four, the young keeper was agile and commanding around his area, as he told senior pros, with far more experience than himself, what to do and when to do it. They listened too. The league title arrived in 1973 and Clemence did then find a place in the limelight, when he stopped a penalty in the final of the UEFA Cup to help the Reds to beat Borussia Moenchengladbach. A year later, the FA Cup was secured at Wembley as the young custodian began to enjoy regular open top bus tours with Liverpool. He went on to help them to win the league in 1976, 1977, 1979 and 1980. In 1976, the UEFA Cup was recaptured, but it was during the next four seasons that the club's dominance of Europe really began to show, as they won the European Cup in 1977, 1978 and 1981. Clemence was as masterful against continental opposition as he was against domestic strikers, just as he was equally adept both on the ground and in the air. In a poll on Liverpool's official website, the affable shot-stopper came in at number 11 in the top 100 players in the club's history and he was the highest placed keeper, beating his successor Bruce Grobbelaar to the honour. Helping to pioneer the use of gloves, Clemence had been called into the England squad in 1972 by no lesser luminary than Sir Alf Ramsey, but even the World Cup winner was unable to be sure if he was the best available. Over the course of a decade, the Liverpool 'keeper alternated in and out of the national with Shilton, while Joe Corrigan was left back in third place, often sitting in the stands for games. One major achievement that he did enjoy, though, was becoming the first goalkeeper to captain England since Frank Swift had done so in the 1940's, but it was in a period when the team struggled to qualify for major tournaments, so this honour was a bit of an oasis in a desert. With Liverpool in their prime, Clemence caused a stir when he opted to join Tottenham in 1981, believing that he needed a fresh challenge at a club where he would still have a chance of winning things. While the silverware was not going to be in as great a supply as it was at Anfield, he did help the north London outfit to win the FA Cup in his first year, as well as to reach the League Cup Final in 1982 and the FA Cup Final again in 1987. After seeing Pat Jennings defect to Arsenal and Barry Daines unable to come anywhere the same standard, Clemence's arrival at White Hart Lane was a big moment for the club as he was the rock upon which the success of the 1980's was built. UEFA Cup glory was missed out on by Clemence, as he did not play in the final, and instead his injury meant that Tony Parks went on to make his name with a penalty save against Anderlecht. Since retiring the 'keeper, now 60, has managed both Tottenham and Barnet and has been on the England coaching staff for over a decade. He has, more recently, seen off prostate cancer and received an MBE for his services to the game. HONOURS First Division title (Liverpool) 1973, 1976, 1977, 1979 and 1980 FA Cup winner (Liverpool) 1974 (Tottenham Hotspur) 1982 European Cup winner (Liverpool) 1977, 1978 and 1981 UEFA Cup winner (Liverpool) 1973 and 1976 League Cup winner (Liverpool) 1981 European Super Cup winner (Liverpool) 1977 Charity Shield winner (Liverpool) 1974, 1976, 1977 (shared), 1979 and 1980 (Tottenham Hotspur) 1981 (shared) Awarded MBE DID YOU KNOW... Clemence did not dive in warm-ups before matches because he thought it was unlucky... 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Гост Scarface Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Легендарен английски вратар приет в болница http://static.blitz.bg/thumbnails/500/201111/20111114.lvqnhpoibd.jpg Бившият английски национал Рей Клемънс, който в момента работи като треньор на вратарите на “трите лъва”, е бил приет в болница. Новината бе съобщена от Футболната асоциация без да се съобщават подробности за здравословното състояние на 63-годишният екстраж на Ливърпул и Тотнъм. Клемънс не се е почувствал добре в петък, когато пропусна тренировката на националния отбор. Той не бе на пейката на тима и при победата с 1:0 над Испания в събота. “Рей Клемънс е приет в болница за изследвания, след като не се почувства добре. Той благодари на всички за подкрепата и моли семейството му да бъде оставено на спокойствие”, се казва в съобщението на Футболната асоциация. Трикратният носител на КЕШ с Ливърпул от 1996 г. насам работи с вратарите на “трите лъва”, като в момента е под ръководството на пети различен селекционер. Той няма да участва в днешната тренировка на тима и най-вероятно ще пропусне утрешната контрола с Швеция. В началото на февруари 2005 г. на Клемънс бе открит рак на простатата. По този начин той стана вторият човек от екипа на тогавашния селекционер Свен-Йоран Ериксон, на когото е поставена такава дигноза. Точно преди Евро 2004 рак на простатата бе открит и на Брайън Кид. Рей Клемънс започва футболната си кариера в Скънторп през 1965 г. и две години по-късно преминава в Ливърпул. С “червените” той печели 5 шампионски титли, по един път ФА Къп и Купата на Лигата, три пъти взима КЕШ, два пъти Купата на УЕФА и един път Суперкупата на Европа. През 1981 г. става играч на Тотнъм, където печели ФА Къп и Купата на УЕФА. За националния отбор на Англия Клемънс изиграва 61 мача за 12 години, но в този период е редуван с Питър Шилтън. С “трите лъва” той участва на Евро`80 (в Италия) и на Мондиал`82 (в Испания). Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Гост Fowler23 Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Дано в най-скоро време всичко да е наред! Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Гост Scarface Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 http://www.liverweb.org.uk/clem.jpg Happy birthday Ray, and good luck !!! Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Гост Scarface Posted August 5, 2014 Report Share Posted August 5, 2014 Най-добрият вратар пазил някога за Ливърпул.Рей Клемънс - Ч.Р.Д., легендо!!! Y.N.W.A.!!! Red One and Riise 2 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Scarface Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Ч.Р.Д. Легендо!!!! David, Liverpool-Angel and Drenski 3 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
niki 50 Posted May 29, 2017 Report Share Posted May 29, 2017 http://www.liverpoolbg.com/%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%B9-%D0%BA%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BC%D1%8A%D0%BD%D1%81-%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D1%81%D0%BF%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%8F%D0%B2%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BE-%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%B6%D0%B8%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B0-%D1%81/ Големият Ливърпул!!! David 1 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Scarface Posted October 7, 2020 Report Share Posted October 7, 2020 Не намерих тема за великият Рей.Вече и той с рисунка на сграда в града.Ще стане като картинна галерия тоя град ей :) tuzara 1 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
S.Radev Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Великия Рей Клемънс е починал. За мен най-добрия вратар който Ливърпул някога е имал.RIP Ray niki 50, The Anfield 1892, David and 2 others 5 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Scarface Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Почивай в мир великане baivan 1 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Bellamy Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Да почива в мир! Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
flyhorse0906 Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Да почива в мир! Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
David Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Не знам кой, какво помни от хората във форума, но мисля, че тези, които сме го гледали в реални мачове по телевизията, колкото и малко да са били тогава, ще се съгласят с констатацията, че едва ли някога Ливърпул и английския национален отбор ще имат по-комплексен, харизматичен и уникален вратар.Един от най-любимите ми футболисти, обличали някога фланелката на Ливърпул! Уважавам и харесвам Алисън много, но и той е твърде далече от класата на Рей. Тук даже не става дума за никакви съпоставки. Рей Клемънс играеше в собствена своя лига на много високо, високо ниво. Изваждаше положения, които никой не знае как нормален човек, би могъл да направи в реално време. и не, не са само натуралният рефлекс и късмет. Той наблюдаваше зорко играта под козирката на шапката си. Беше готов с решения няколко хода напред и винаги вземаше правилните решения. Изключителна харизма и талант от стратосферно ниво! Наистина днешните вратари могат само да се учат от него!Това, че конюктурни кретенщини сложиха Питър Шилтън едва ли не пред него като класа, не подценяват ни най-малко таланта му! Господ да даде мир на душата му! Сбогом, легендо! tuzara, flyhorse0906, Morientes and 5 others 8 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
niki 50 Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Много тъжна новина за мен,пораснах с Ливърпул от 70 и 80-те и обичам всички от тогавашните гарнитури.Никога няма да те забравим Рей! baivan, David and Gandalf 3 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
cyberfan Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Ти жив ли си бе човек? Къде се изгуби толкова време? Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Gandalf Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Много тъжен ден! Най-великият заставал под рамката ще пази на друго място. Почивай в мир Рей! Благодаря за прекрасните спомени! David and niki 50 2 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
niki 50 Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Ти жив ли си бе човек? Къде се изгуби толкова време?Тука съм,ливърпулци независимо от поколението трудно умират.Бях малко на ,,топло,, ,как е във форума.Кои са живи от последните събития? Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
stunnyss Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 RIP. Най великия вратар който съм гледал. David 1 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
David Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Изгледайте това, момчета и момчета! Рей Клемънс през собствения си поглед. Велико! https://www.facebook...58388760464667/ Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
Stojkica Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 RIP Не съм го гледал, малък съм за да съм. Но не мога да разбера защо е бил продаден на Тотнъм (където играе още 7 сезона) и е заменен с меко казано спорен вратар като Гробелаар. А същевременно се води най-добрият вратар, който Ливърпул някога е имал. joffer 1 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
baivan Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Гробелар вече е бил купен за 250 000 на 17 март 1981 и то след като е бил много желан от нашите. Още когато пристигнал в клуба, той казал на Рей нещо такова: "Ти си много стар вече и догодина ще съм на твоето място" Наистина в някои мачове до лятото на 1981 пускат Брус вместо Рей, като той започва постепенно да го измества.Тогава Рей е на 33 год, а Брус на 24. И друго важно нещо, за което пишат - Клубът тогава е отказал да повиши заплатата на Рей, той поискал да напуснеи бива продаден за 300 000 на Тотнъм, с 50 000 (или 20 процента) повече от платените за Гробелар. Leon1912 and Bellamy 2 Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
niki 50 Posted November 15, 2020 Report Share Posted November 15, 2020 Играеше с левият крак и много добре и надалеч хвърляше топката на съиграч,това на примависта,като спомени.......... Отговор Link to comment Сподели другаде More sharing options...
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