Джордан Хендерсън (Аякс)

[Guest Stojkica]

Добре, че Англия отпаднаха, че Хендерсън д аима 1 седмица повече за почивка ... по-точно да почива нормално и да започне подготовка една седмица по-рано от предвиденото.

 

Пиърс си е неконсистентен, няма повече какво да се каже за него, догодина Великобритания няма да имат успех с него начело.

[Guest tsbalabanov]

Имайте предвид, че Хендерсън не си игра на позицията, така че... А и то националният на Англия си е константно жалък във всички възрасти, така че това не е мерило.

[Guest rounder]

Бла бла ще съдя играч от изявите му за националния отбор на Англия младежи ...Ако Хендерсън е трансфер на Далглиш,съм сигурен,че ще видим добри игри от играча тоя сезон.

 

Иначе Пиърс се сбогува с шансовете си за мястото на Капело.Сега сигурно замисля как да си го върне на Кени и Венгер,че му отмъкнаха Керъл и Уилшър,като най-вече вторият щеше да е може би най-важният играч на терена за тях.

[Guest s0Ldi3r]

You can not judge him after only three games

 

At the end of the day, Liverpool bought Jordan Henderson for the long term. Both Kenny Dalglish and Damien Comolli saw something in the 21 year old which made them believe that spending upwards of £20million for the player was a good long term investment. Going by some people’s reactions to Henderson’s performances in the U21 Championships, you would be forgiven for thinking we had just spent a fortune on a complete dud.

 

Although it is from a small minority, complaining about a player’s performance after watching him for three games in a side managed by Stuart Pearce is not the best way to assess the talents of a player. I think most, like me, will hold judgement at least until the end of next season, to see how Jordan has progressed as a player.

 

Some of the frustration surrounding the transfer is of course the belief that we overspent, and that the money could have been put to better use on an older, proven foreign talent. Understandably there is a desire for immediate success after the trials and tribulations of the previous ownership, as well as the fact the Reds have gone 20 years without winning the league

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There is an understandable fear that now that we actually do have money, nobody wants to see us waste it on players who are not worthy of their valuation. Overpriced English players has been the theme of many a fan’s argument so far this window, and a few will pounce on the opportunity when things don’t go so well for players such as Henderson.

 

Immediate success maybe in many fans’ minds when they think up their list of transfer targets this summer, but for FSG, Dalglish and Comolli, a long term legacy is what is being focused on. Dalglish is trying to mould a team in his own style. For Reds fans bringing the likes of Aguero, Mata etc should be Liverpool’s goal but Dalglish has his own way of doing things. Both Comolli and FSG know that Dalglish will command a great deal of loyalty and to make sure this project is developed for long term goals; Kenny looks to be the ideal man to carry it out with fewer dissenters and doubters surrounding Anfield.

 

In regards to Henderson, he is nowhere near the finished article. It is unfair to judge him on three games playing alongside Mancienne, Muamba and Welbeck rather than alongside Lucas, Gerrard and Suarez. His interaction with team mates will be totally different at club level, and he will be able to develop his game, while having greater time to get a greater understanding with his team mates.

 

In addition he will have Kenny Dalglish as his manager. Someone who can guide him to being a better player. He has all the attributes to do it and is certainly a Dalglish player with his passing ability and energy. Dalglish, Clarke, and the quality of players at Liverpool will make Henderson a better player, and if Kenny is any judge of a player, we will certainly have a great star in the making in the next 3 to 5 years.

 

[Guest deadpoll]

Posted on June 23rd, 2011

Posted by by Paul Tomkins

 

Jordan Henderson has yet to kick a football for Liverpool – even in training – and many are already writing him off.

If playing poorly – or rather, failing to shine as expected – for England at any level is an indicator, John Barnes and Steven Gerrard would have been totally worthless for Liverpool; little matter that they are two of the club’s top five players ever. Hell, even Lionel Messi hasn’t been even half as good for Argentina as he has for Barcelona, and Argentina actually pass the ball.

 

Thankfully Dalglish’s Liverpool won’t be playing the same football as England, who still seem obsessed, at every level, with long diagonal balls from the back if teammates are even remotely marked; whereas footballing sides a) know how to make more space for themselves, and B) trust a marked player. Good teams don’t panic and launch long at the first sign of pressing. Players like Luis Suarez will be easier to pick out with a pass than anyone Henderson played with in the U21s.

 

That said, Henderson proved a big success in the Premier League last season by creating far more chances for his team than anyone else, and by ranking in the top three in the entire division for key passes. At 20, in a mid-table side, that’s really good going.

 

Apparently “£20m” (even thought it’s £16m) is an outrageous price to pay for a young full England international who started 37 out of 38 Premier League games last season, but Man United paying £16m (rising to £20m) for an uncapped even younger player – a defender, at that, with their lower average price tag – is “clever business”.

 

Why can’t both transfers work out? Yes, there’s an ‘English premium’ put on the pair, but with various rules in place and further quotas mooted, it makes perfect sense to pay more to ensure that the criteria are met. (At least until Liverpool’s ever-improving Academy, which now has a staggering 25 youth internationals, delivers a stream of players into the first team; but as many are 16 or 17 right now, it could be two or three years before that happens.)

 

With Jamie Carragher now 33 and Steven Gerrard 31, and with both missing large chunks of last season, it’s essential to bring in some more English blood, even if the club are clearly scouting elsewhere too. (As seen with Luis Suarez). It’s not Henderson’s fault that he has to be labelled with the extra expense.

 

Both Henderson and Jones look very good young players. However, Jones won’t be the last braveheart defender to come out of an England tournament as one of the few successes due to last-ditch tackles, and Henderson – like Gerrard and Lampard – won’t be the last midfielder to find himself struggling as the English fear of possession takes hold. Judging players this way makes no sense when you look at how they perform for their clubs.

 

Indeed, Lampard provides an interesting comparison. In 2001 Chelsea paid £15m (in 2011 money) to West Ham, for a player who first played for England at 21, a full year older than Henderson. It took Lampard a good few years to become a regular for his country, not to mention being one of those players people – including myself – often wrongly wrote off as unremarkable.

 

Whatever you think of Lampard, he has had an incredible seven years at Chelsea, after a slowish start. What are his qualities? Well, he’s quite tall and strong, and has a phenomenal engine that drives him box to box in a Mondeo-style manner Alan Partridge would masturbate over. Without being an absolute visionary, he’s a fine passer, and has flourished with the right players around him, in a system that suits him.

 

Then look at Shaun-Wright Phillips. He was seen as an altogether more exciting talent when he moved from Manchester City to Chelsea; I lost count of the amount of times Liverpool fans told me we should buy him back in 2004 or 2005.

 

I often use him as an example of a player who leaves a ‘safe’ environment where he’d developed in steady incremental stages without too much pressure, to suddenly have to deliver instant ‘superstar’ play at a big club. Some just don’t make the transition. (But then again, nor did a fully-established world-class import in the case of Shevchenko; there is no guarantee for success, no secret formula.)

 

Henderson now has that same pressure, and I fear for him, given that he is not viewed as a ‘sexy’ footballer, but people see him priced as one. But in today’s money, Wright-Phillips’ fee equates to a mind-boggling £48.8m and, while making comparisons, Michael Carrick’s to £41.2m when moving from Spurs to United. This is because these deals were so much higher than the average fee being paid in the seasons they switched clubs.

 

When these two players moved, the average price of a Premier League footballer was around £2m; right now, it’s £5m. So Henderson’s fee should be viewed in this light, as prices have more than doubled since 2005. (For more on this, see www.transferpriceindex.com and/or see this piece about the English premium.)

 

Manchester United have also just paid £15m-£17m for Ashley Young, even though the player had only one year left on his contract; a situation that usually (roughly) halves the fee. So you cannot compare the two deals without noting that Young, in truth, is a £30m player attained on the cheap due to the Bosman ruling. (And it also shows why Stewart Downing may have a higher transfer fee than his more-coveted Villa teammate.)

 

Young is of course far more proven than Henderson, and right now a better player. But had he been in full contract at Aston Villa, his fee would have been much higher. While very different players, Young first played for England at the age of 22, so it’s fair to say Henderson got to that milestone well before him.

 

Also, I’d imagine that, given his age and experience, Young will be on close to £100,000 a week at United. I’d be surprised if Henderson is on much more than £50,000 at Liverpool. While transfer fees are a very influential factor in the success of teams, as noted by all our work on the Transfer Price Index, you can’t be too focused on the fee of one individual, because of the different sets of circumstances behind each and every signing. On the whole, clubs get a few bargains, a few fair-priced deals and overpay a few times, too. On average, it tends to even out.

 

What I will say is that, in this case, Henderson may earn £12.5m over five years compared with £25m paid to Young. Wages count too. Right now, United will be a preferred destination for many players because of their ability to balance a larger wage bill, their status as champions and their participation in the Champions League. Liverpool remains a very fashionable and esteemed club, but it may take a year or two to attract the top continental stars, or the most established Brits.

 

Like Manchester City, when buying the likes of Lescott, Barry and Milner, Liverpool have to find players to supplement their big stars, and help get them into the top four before focusing on those who can challenge for the title. (Liverpool just have to do the same without the £200,000-a-week pay deals and quite so many £20m+ signings.)

 

If Henderson gets a pay rise in a year or two, then that’s to reward his success, and will have been earned. In terms of wages he’s therefore a low-risk purchase. Liverpool are currently committed to paying almost £20m over four years to Joe Cole and roughly £13m to Milan Jovanovic over three. Both were free transfers, and given they are in the last few years of their careers, both have little market value in transfer terms. Looked at like that, Henderson is not that big a gamble.

 

Then there’s the goalscoring potential of the young Wearsider. Frank Lampard scored roughly 15 goals in his first 110 games, which was nowhere near as prolific as he became (not sure if that includes penalties, but if so, that’s a great way to boost tallies). Steven Gerrard was also a slow developer in this sense, averaging six goals a season until Rafa Benítez arrived in 2004, yet they have been the top-scoring central-midfielders of recent times. From the way he gets forward, Henderson has the look of someone with the potential to become a lot more prolific.

Terry McDermott, speaking to LFC Weekly, sees a kindred spirit:

“I never scored many for Newcastle and if you look at my record you’ll see I didn’t get many in the first few seasons at Liverpool. I think it’s definitely something you can learn to do. You adapt as you get older and you become a wiser footballer. You learn about what you can and can’t do … I began to realise what I needed to do to score more often. I was good at getting forward and knew that I could score more goals. The coaches at the club encouraged me to do it and that helped too. All of a sudden I was getting 15 to 20 goals a season. I think if Jordan works on that side of his game, there’s no reason why he can’t get double figures too. He’s definitely capable of it. I think he has shown that with the goals he has scored for Sunderland.”

So yes, potential costs money. So does being English, but for very good reason (quotas, etc). But even if Henderson does not become a world-beater, he can still prove to be excellent value for money with his ability to make quick first-time passes, allied to his humility and determination to succeed – so long as he can overcome those who expect too much too soon.

[Guest Fowler23]

Jordan Henderson: is chance creation the way to the top?

http://www.anfieldindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/jordan-henderson_1765457c1-300x187.jpg

Much has been made of the apparent inflated price Liverpool have paid for Jordan Henderson, believed to be in the region of £16m.

 

Let us step away from the price tag for a moment, particularly as he has yet to kick a ball for his new club club, and consider the most telling statistic about Henderson’s 2010/11 season, that of his chance creation (tweets from OptaJoe here and here):

 

 

Only four players created more goalscoring chances in the 2010/11 PL season than Sunderland’s Jordan Henderson (82).

 

The four to create more scoring chances than Henderson were Malouda (117), K Davies (91), Brunt (86) and Downing (85).

 

Chance creation gives us a much better idea of a player’s contribution to his side than assists, for the simple reason that it’s not dependent on attacking competency. Season after season, assist charts are dominated by players from top teams, since they’ve had the likes of van Nistelrooy, Henry, Drogba and Ronaldo to ‘complete’ the assist.

 

Chance creation – a pass that leads to a shot on goal – is hardly a perfect statistic in itself (what about dangerous crosses that finds no one?), but it is much better than sight-based biases in player assessment.

 

Is creating an abundance of chances a formula for success, and worth the millions that Liverpool have spent? On first glance, perhaps not (click to enlarge):

http://www.anfieldindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/plchancecreation.jpg

 

Whilst there is a downward trend in chances creation with respect to league position, there appear to be plenty of exceptions, namely Man City, West Brom, Blackpool and West Ham.

 

Clearly, creating chances in itself is not a prerequisite for success, if relegated West Ham can tally only 8 fewer chances than champions Manchester United all season.

 

The issue returns to attacking competency. If two teams have equally good attackers, does the team that creates more chances collect more points over the course of the season?

 

To test this, a model with a measure for attacking ability needs to be formed. I’ve chosen to use chance conversation rates; that is total assisted goals over total chances created. This ranges from 14.5% with Manchester United to 5.8% with West Ham.

 

Holding constant attacking ability, along with other possession and defence-based variables, chance creation has a significant effect on total points accumulated over the season. A 1% increase in chances created leads to approximately a 0.4% increase in points accumulated over the season.

 

The brains behind Liverpool’s transfer policy, Damien Comolli, will have an even better idea of the returns on chance creation. He is of course good friends with Billy Beane, the man whose revolutionary method of valuing baseball players has now been immortalised in film after Michael Lewis’ bestselling book Moneyball. Simon Kuper’s recent FT column reveals how data drove Liverpool’s purchases of Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez; to call the article ‘fascinating’ would do it a disservice.

 

Of course, ‘adding’ chances to Liverpool won’t yield returns unless those other variables – attacking competency and passing and defensive ability – are equal to that of their rivals. Over the course of the 2010/11 season, they fell short of the top four in all these aspects, but the numbers are skewed by Roy Hodgson’s tenure at the club.

 

Comolli and Dalglish must believe that in Carroll and Suarez they have a partnership as clinical as any other in the division, and that the team can also hold their own in other aspects of the pitch. If not, then the additions of Jordan Henderson, and potentially Stuart Downing and Charlie Adam, may well be money foolishly spent.

 

It may be a simple and obvious message – creating more chances for good strikers leads to a higher league position – but it’s an important element to Henderson’s game that has been forgotten in amongst debate over his transfer fee.

[Guest saints]

Jordan Henderson to miss Liverpool’s Asia Tour

 

JORDAN HENDERSON won't be travelling to the Far East with Liverpool on their pre-season tour.

 

The 21-year-old midfielder, who joined the Reds from Sunderland for £16million last month, has been given extra time to recover following his exploits with England at the Under-21 European Championships.

 

Henderson is due back at Melwood when Liverpool return from their eight-day tour of China and Malaysia.

 

Liverpool will fly off on Sunday without Henderson and skipper Steven Gerrard but all other first team stars - with the exception of Copa America duo Luis Suarez and Lucas Leiva - are expected to make the trip.

 

Goalkeeper Pepe Reina had a hernia operation during the close season but is set to travel to Asia.

 

Read More http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-f.../#ixzz1RJjq6tKn

 

[Guest Torresinho]

Хендо ще е 14-ка. Пише го в сайта.

[Guest Liverbird]

Хендо ще е 14-ка. Пише го в сайта.

 

Редактирано е вече. :)

[Guest bgscouser]

New signings Jordan Henderson and Charlie Adam have had their squad numbers confirmed.

 

Former Sunderland star Henderson will wear the No.14 shirt while Jay Spearing has agreed to hand over his No.26 jersey to midfielder Adam.

 

Spearing will now wear the No.20 shirt while Maxi Rodriguez has switched shirts from No.17 to No.11.

[Guest SuperSizee]

Ето още една много, много добра статия за Henderson ... описана страшно добре !

 

http://www.anfieldindex.com/2592/player-pr...enderson-2.html

http://www.anfieldindex.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Henderson-vs-LFC-passes.jpg

[Guest Liverbird]

Jordan Henderson eager to start Liverpool FC career strongly against former club Sunderland

 

“Jordan is the brightest young prospect in the British game. He never gives the ball away, he can tackle, he can run, he can do just about everything.” – former boss Steve Bruce

 

SITTING in the England Under-21 training camp in Denmark, Jordan Henderson scanned the Premier League’s opening day fixtures and smiled wryly. It just had to happen.

 

Liverpool v Sunderland – Saturday, August 13.

 

Having swapped Wearside for Merseyside just a couple of weeks earlier, the news that his first competitive outing for his new team could be against his old one had an inevitability about it.

 

The 21-year-old admits there will be plenty of friends and family members in the away end at Anfield on Saturday, but says there will be no divided loyalties from him.

 

“It's a big game but I've just got to treat it like any other one,” says the Reds’ new £16m signing.

 

“Hopefully I can get into the team first of all, and if I get the chance to play I can make my Premier League debut for Liverpool and that's all that matters really.

 

“All of my family and friends are Sunderland supporters and will all want them to win but I'm a Liverpool player now and I'm looking forward to playing for them. Hopefully we can get a good result on the opening day of the season.”

 

It has been a whirlwind 12 months for the softly-spoken midfielder. After establishing himself in the Sunderland midfield at the back-end of the 2009/10 season, Henderson shone brightly enough the following year to earn a shock call-up to Fabio Capello’s England squad for a friendly with France at Wembley in November 2010.

 

There, he made his debut alongside new Anfield team-mate Andy Carroll, who he remembers well from his youth team days at Sunderland.

 

Seven months later, it was off to Anfield in a £16m deal, and Henderson admits the lure of Liverpool was simply too good a chance to turn down.

 

“I spoke with the manager and the chairman and they agreed a deal and said I could go if I wanted to,” he reveals. “It was a massive opportunity for me to go to Liverpool because they're a massive club.

 

“Liverpool is a huge club and one that a lot of people want to play for, so it's a great honour to be here. I just need to keep doing what I've been doing for Sunderland, keep working hard and hopefully I can have a good experience here.”

 

“I’m not daunted. I think it's more exciting to sign for a club like Liverpool. Obviously they have seen something in me to bring me here and you've just got to keep working hard to repay their faith. I'm sure if I work hard I can do that.”

 

[Guest TpuoHa]

Срещу Съндърланд не беше много бляскав Хендо. Във всеки случай се надявам, че с течение на времето ще подобри играта си. Има потенциал.

http://www.liverpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/a...le.asp?a=251062

 

[Guest Георги Бинев]

Срещу Съндърланд не беше много бляскав Хендо.

Извинявам се за спама, ама защо наричате футболистите с тези тъпи имена като Хендо, Аквамен. Гошо, Грозния и т..н?

[Guest rounder]

Извинявам се за спама, ама защо наричате футболистите с тези тъпи имена като Хендо, Аквамен. Гошо, Грозния и т..н?

 

Може би е свързано с очакванията към тях :

Хендо ~ Хенди (полезен),нали уж е човек за всичко в халфовата линия

Аквамен - супергерой,ще ни спасява.

Гошо - балканско име,за да почне да играе със страст,защото е супер апатичен във всеки мач.

 

Грозничкия - който както го вижда.

[Guest rAzER]

Само да спадне напрежението да се сработят помежду си и да свикне и ще видите най-малкото Хендерсън от Съндерланд.Надявам се скоро.

[Guest deadpoll]

важното е да бъде използван там,където трябва. силата не му е по крилото.

[Guest Dacheff]

Може би е свързано с очакванията към тях :

Хендо ~ Хенди (полезен),нали уж е човек за всичко в халфовата линия

Аквамен - супергерой,ще ни спасява.

Гошо - балканско име,за да почне да играе със страст,защото е супер апатичен във всеки мач.

 

Грозничкия - който както го вижда.

 

Бих заложил по-скоро на сходството от имената им...

Хендерсън - Хендо, Нгог - Гошо, Акуилани (от акуа - вода) - Акуамен... Не търсете нещо кой знае колко скрито в тези обръщения :sarcastic:

[Guest dandio]

ОФтопик: rounder по-скоро се шегуваше :)

Стига да не са обидни не мисля, че има проблем с обръщенията към играчите

 

Иначе по темата, наистина забит на крилото не блестеше, ако играе малко по в центъра според мен ще се включи по-добре, но Кени решава.... иначе момчето е младо 90-ти набор всъщност, имам добри очаквания да мо потръгне

 

[Guest merseyside]

Хендерсън е още млад неможе да очакваме от него да прави чудеса тепърва ще се развива и ще се вписва в първия отбор а и позицията според мен не му е на крилото а в центъра

[Guest Димитър Петков]

Ще се впише в отбора. Трябва му малко време просто. Аз лично в първите 1 или 2 месеца от сезона не очаквам да покаже и 1/10 от това което може. И не на последно място, можем да го съдим за играта му когато играе на предпочитаната си позиция

[Guest Liverpool-The-Best]

Хендерсън е уникален талант, не бях гледал контролите, където беше оплюван, както и след днешния мач, но от това, което видях, просто съм убеден, че ще направи голямо име на Анфийлд!Ще видите, че съм прав, а сега разбирачите, нека си плюят колкото искат и да ми говорят, че нищо не разбирам

[Guest Torresinho]

Е дано, да стане. Аз не го харесвам, но все пак щом е при нас има причина.

[Guest Георги Бинев]

Аз ще си призная - гледах само второто полувреме. Според мен не е слаб Хендерсън, напротив има доста футбол в него от това, което видях. Добър пас и добър поглед. Това върху, което трябва да работи е вземането на повече отговорност и да иска топката по-често. Да не се крие, защото играе на такава позиция, в което не трябва да е пасивен.

[Guest Nik]

Анализче за Хендо тук. В мача срещу Арсенал 60 паса най-много от всички на терена от които 57 успешни. На графиката се вижда на къси и средни разтояния точно в стила пас енд муув като за втори мач и то срещу Арсенал не е толкова слаб колкото го изкарват някой хора.